An AVM investigative Report by John M Jones III (5/23/19)
When the Ken Starr report was released it concluded that Bill Clinton lied under oath, committed witness tampering, lied before a grand jury and committed at least 11 possible impeachable offenses. (1) When the mueller report was release it concluded that there was no collusion between Trump and the russians, which isn’t a crime anyway, and that President Trump ‘wanted’ (but did not) to fire the people who were falsely investigating him for collusion & obstruction. (2) To make matters worse after having spent $30 million on this special counsel hoax are opening endless congressional criminal fishing expeditions to try and find out of President Trump has even done anything wrong in his lifetime. The last time I checked probable cause is needed to investigation people. THIS IS AMERICA AFTER-ALL!
It was just a few short years ago when many democrats said what the president does in his private life doesn’t matter. Of course, were referring to bill clintons ‘cigar’, monica lewiski and a certain blue dress under the desk in the oval office. They totally ignored the 11 impeachable offenses found by the Starr report which had nothing to do with the ‘Act of Sex’ clinton had with lewinski. It had to do with him being preeminently corrupt, a liar, and HIS attempts to cover up it up which he KNEW to be wrong! So why do they care so much NOW about a report that found no crimes committed by POTUS? They care because THEY lost the 2016 election and the only way they can win in 2020 is to ensure that they bring down our President even if it destroys our Country in the process.
Before reading further check out the full cnn list of 11 impeachable charges by the Star report located at the end of THIS report or click >>HERE<< to view it in all its glory from cnn's own website!
On the release of the Starr report: “In the interview with Charlie Rose, Nadler said it was "a matter of decency and protecting people's privacy rights" not to release the Whitewater report. "It represents statements [made by witnesses] that may or may not be true... [and is] unfair to release," he said.” (4)
Reps. Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., Maxine Waters, D-Calif., Elijah Cummings, D-Md., and 14 other Democrats currently in the House voted in 1998 against releasing the Starr Report about President Bill Clinton. But 21 years later, many of those Democratic lawmakers are some of the most ardent voices in Congress pushing for the full release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.(6) They hated so much so that Jannt Reno, attorney general for bill Clinton, change the DOJ forbidding a special counsel from releasing their report to the public.
So, the Clinton administration made the rule to keep the future reports secret yet today “Judiciary Committee Chairman Nadler, Oversight Committee Chairman Cummings, Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., and Financial Services Committee Chairwoman Waters are part of a group of lawmakers in the lower chamber putting pressure on Attorney General William Barr to release the so-called Mueller Report.” They are doing this Knowing that “back in 1998, these lawmakers were among the 63 then serving in the House to vote against release of Independent Counsel Ken Starr’s report on his investigation into President Bill Clinton.”
Maxine Waters in 1998 has this to say about Clintons private life, “then-President Bill Clinton was “guilty of certain indiscretions, in his private life.” But, she said, Clinton “did not commit high crimes and misdemeanors” that warranted impeachment. (8) I guess lying in a deposition or lying in front of a grand jury doesn’t count as a high crime as long as you are a democrat.
Nadler went even further to defend Clinton by saying, “Perjury on a private matter, perjury regarding sex, is not a great and dangerous offense against the nation.” "Nadler went on to say, “it is not an abuse of uniquely presidential power. It does not threaten our form of government. It is not an impeachable offense.” So they claim Trump lied in a private matter so by their own reasoning he cannot be impeached, right. What’s good for the goose I say! (8)
Bob Menendez, decided to enter into the fray by saying, “the Lewinsky affair “is not Watergate.” He added, “let he who has no sin in this chamber cast the first stone.” (8) He of course ignored the lying and witness tampering part of the Starr report. In 2015, menendez was indicted on 14 criminal counts including bribery. Perhaps he is not the best person to defend Clinton. (9) Just saying.
Not to be outdone nanpol had to have her say too, “House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi fought against Clinton’s impeachment, after telling NBC’s “Meet the Press” in February 1998 that American women valued “privacy” and didn’t want to see someone with “uncontrolled power” probing the president. Her comment was in response to the investigation by independent counsel Ken Starr. And Charles Schumer, now the top Senate Democrat, said as a New York congressman during the Clinton scandal that the ex-president’s behavior was wrong but didn’t rise to an impeachable offense. (8) This sounds very familiar like someone in the last 22 months was saying something VERY similar to this, but wasn’t a democrat.
“Pelosi, along with other Democrats, did not argue that the report should remain private; only that House Speaker Newt Gingrich should let the President see it first, and maybe include a rebuttal with the report.” (10) She also “characterized the report as “a list of allegations…not a statement of fact” because the claims “will be unanalyzed, no witnesses cross examined.” (10)
Her tune has changed now that a republican is being investigated, “Asked about the Mueller report at a recent press conference, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi D-CA said wearily, “How can I just say this more clearly? Show us the report.” (10)
This is an excerpt from a statement by nanpol of March,22 2019 on the issue, “The Special Counsel’s investigation focused on questions that go to the integrity of our democracy itself: whether foreign powers corruptly interfered in our elections, and whether unlawful means were used to hinder that investigation. The American people have a right to the truth. The watchword is transparency.” (11) Isn’t it interesting that she wants total transparency NOW but when bill Clinton and the democrats where on the chopping block she wanted to keep it SECRET from the American people.
Real Clear Politics wrote on the subject, “Twenty years ago, Democrats were arguing that everyone lies about sex; hence Clinton's less-than-truthful statements under oath were not worthy of impeachment. Republicans, however, saw his actions as obstruction of justice, one of two successful charges in the House articles of impeachment that passed a floor vote.” (12) So, lying was ok for the democrats 20 years ago, I wonder what changed their opinions about that today, hmmm?
On Nadler: “The Washington Post picked up on the hypocrisy, too, Tuesday, quoting Nadler on the Starr report: It's grand jury material. It represents statements which may or may not be true by various witnesses. Salacious material. All kinds of material that it would be unfair to release." (13) It’s the law not to release this information, but nadler wants barr to do it anyway!
On Pelosi: “Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) blasted Attorney General William Barr for allowing President Trump’s legal team to see an advanced copy of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s final investigation. But in 1998, Pelosi suggested that then-President Bill Clinton had the right to review independent counsel Ken Starr’s report on Clinton’s sex scandal.” (14) I love democrat double standard they give me a warm feeling inside!
The Cowley Courier Traveler put it like this about the democrat report or impeachment hypocrisy, “It would be the height of hypocrisy if Democrats tried to remove the president over allegations of illegality relating to extramarital affairs. During the Monica Lewinsky scandal, congressional Democrats told us the private sexual conduct of a president does not matter, and that lying under oath to cover up a "consensual relationship" is not an impeachable offense. (15)
“Then-Rep. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., said President Bill Clinton's lies under oath about his sexual relationship with a White House intern might have been illegal, but declared the scandal "a tawdry but not impeachable affair" — right before heading off to a fundraiser with Clinton. At the time, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., declared that the Starr investigation "vindicates President Clinton in the conduct of his public life because we're only left with this personal stuff" and that Founding Fathers "would say it was not for the investigation of a president's personal life that we risked our life, our liberty, and our sacred honor." (15)
“Today, Democrats are outraged and appalled when Trump attacks special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and calls his inquiry a "witch hunt." But back then, then-Sen. Joe Biden called the Starr investigation ... wait for it ... a "witch hunt." Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vt., declared Starr was "out of control" and accused him of having a "fixation of trying to topple the president of the United States." (15)
“Rahm Emanuel, then a White House senior adviser, accused Starr of engaging in "a partisan political pursuit of the president" while White House special counsel Lanny Davis (who is now representing Cohen) said Starr was a "desperate prosecutor who can't make a case on Whitewater" and who should face "possible removal because of his conduct." (15)
Well, it seems like we're right back where we started. Federal prosecutors were supposed to be investigating Russian collusion. Instead, we have an inquiry into the Trump Organization's finances and whether Trump's payments to Stormy Daniels violated campaign-finance laws. Both might be worthy of scrutiny but at least under the precedent Democrats set during the 1990s, they are not grounds for impeachment. (15)
“If Democrats do try to impeach Trump over anything but a criminal conspiracy with Russia, they will regret it. The president was legitimately elected by Americans who knew about his lecherous past and supported him anyway. Indeed, Trump's election was a direct result of the Democrats' victory in the culture war of the 1990s. Republicans are now simply playing by the rules Democrats established. Millions of Americans absorbed the lesson that Clinton and his Democratic enablers taught us — that a president's "personal stuff," as Pelosi put it, does not matter — and chose Trump.” (15)
More blatant hypocrisy not only from democrats but from republicans too! https://www.cbsnews.com/news/27-senators-were-in-congress-during-clintons-impeachment-what-would-they-do-about-trump/
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Summary of the STARR report from CNN: In the introduction of his referral to the House, Starr accuses Clinton of lying under oath "in a civil deposition while he was a defendant in a sexual harassment lawsuit" and "to a grand jury."
Starr's prosecutors also allege Clinton "attempted to influence the testimony of a grand jury witness who had direct knowledge of facts that would reveal the falsity of his deposition testimony; attempted to obstruct justice by facilitating a witness' plan to refuse to comply with a subpoena; attempted to obstruct justice by encouraging a witness to file an affidavit that the president knew would be false ... ; lied to potential grand jury witnesses, knowing that then they would repeat those lies before the grand jury; and engaged in a pattern on conduct that was inconsistent with his constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws."
In a detailed narrative, Starr traced the findings of his investigation from the time Lewinsky first began her White House internship, through the beginning and end of her sexual relationship with Clinton to the present status of the independent counsel's grand jury probe.
The report concludes with a legalistic section entitled "Grounds," in which Starr summarizes the supporting evidence to the 11 grounds for possible impeachment of the president. (1)
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Summary of Mueller Report from NPR: Special counsel Robert Mueller did not find evidence that President Trump's campaign conspired with Russia to influence the 2016 election, according to a summary of findings submitted to Congress by Attorney General William Barr.
"The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election," Barr wrote in a letter to leaders of the House and Senate judiciary committees on Sunday afternoon.
That was despite "multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign," he wrote.
However, Mueller's investigation did not take a position on whether Trump obstructed justice by trying to frustrate the ongoing investigation.
"[W]hile this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," Barr quotes from Mueller's report.
The attorney general wrote that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had concluded that the findings of the special counsel were "not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction-of-justice offense." (2)
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Starr Report list of charges from cnn: There is substantial and credible information supporting the following eleven possible grounds for impeachment:
1. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil case when he denied a sexual affair, a sexual relationship, or sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.
2. President Clinton lied under oath to the grand jury about his sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.
3. In his civil deposition, to support his false statement about the sexual relationship, President Clinton also lied under oath about being alone with Ms. Lewinsky and about the many gifts exchanged between Ms. Lewinsky and him.
4. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his discussions with Ms. Lewinsky concerning her involvement in the Jones case.
5. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth about their relationship by concealing gifts subpoenaed by Ms. Jones's attorneys.
6. During the Jones case, the President obstructed justice and had an understanding with Ms. Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth of their relationship from the judicial process by a scheme that included the following means: (i) Both the President and Ms. Lewinsky understood that they would lie under oath in the Jones case about their sexual relationship; (ii) the President suggested to Ms. Lewinsky that she prepare an affidavit that, for the President's purposes, would memorialize her testimony under oath and could be used to prevent questioning of both of them about their relationship; (iii) Ms. Lewinsky signed and filed the false affidavit; (iv) the President used Ms. Lewinsky's false affidavit at his deposition in an attempt to head off questions about Ms. Lewinsky; and (v) when that failed, the President lied under oath at his civil deposition about the relationship with Ms. Lewinsky.
7. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice by helping Ms. Lewinsky obtain a job in New York at a time when she would have been a witness harmful to him were she to tell the truth in the Jones case.
8. President Clinton lied under oath in his civil deposition about his discussions with Vernon Jordan concerning Ms. Lewinsky's involvement in the Jones case.
9. The President improperly tampered with a potential witness by attempting to corruptly influence the testimony of his personal secretary, Betty Currie, in the days after his civil deposition.
10. President Clinton endeavored to obstruct justice during the grand jury investigation by refusing to testify for seven months and lying to senior White House aides with knowledge that they would relay the President's false statements to the grand jury -- and did thereby deceive, obstruct, and impede the grand jury.
11. President Clinton abused his constitutional authority by (i) lying to the public and the Congress in January 1998 about his relationship with Ms. Lewinsky; (ii) promising at that time to cooperate fully with the grand jury investigation; (iii) later refusing six invitations to testify voluntarily to the grand jury; (iv) invoking Executive Privilege; (v) lying to the grand jury in August 1998; and (vi) lying again to the public and Congress on August 17, 1998 -- all as part of an effort to hinder, impede, and deflect possible inquiry by the Congress of the United States. (2a)
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(1) http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/09/11/starr.report/
(2) https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/706318191/trump-white-house-hasnt-seen-or-been-briefed-on-mueller-investigation-report
(2a) http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/09/11/grounds/
(3) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cost-mueller-investigation-171000076.html
(4) https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/04/02/jerrold-nadler-demands-mueller-report-objected-starr-clinton-report-collins-says
(5) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-lawmakers-who-voted-against-starr-report-release-now-pushing-for-mueller-report
(6) https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/a3bm3b/frustrated-you-cant-read-the-mueller-report-you-can-blame-ken-starr
(7) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-lawmakers-who-voted-against-starr-report-release-now-pushing-for-mueller-report
(8) https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-what-democrats-said-20-years-ago-about-presidents-illegally-covering-up-their-sex-lives-2018-08-23
(9) https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/politics/menendez-indictment-takeaways/index.html
(10) https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/03/31/bay-area-democrats-approach-to-mueller-report-vs-starr-report-of-98/
(11) https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/32219-2/
(12) https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/08/28/gop_democrats_switch_roles_20_years_after_clinton_impeachment_137915.html
(13) https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/democrats-ken-star-mueller-report-hypocrisy/2019/04/02/id/909823/
(14) https://ntknetwork.com/flashback-in-1998-pelosi-wanted-president-to-see-final-starr-report-before-congress/
(15) http://www.ctnewsonline.com/opinion/article_6547a8c0-afbe-11e8-b658-93cee9899d0f.html
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